Dodgers & Twins

Submitted by: johnbitzer

Real Trade

Dodgers

NameAgeLevelP1P2AvailabilityYearsAFVSalarySurplusLowMedianHigh
Noah Miller20MinorsSS0002.522.53

Total Value:

2.5

Twins

NameAgeLevelP1P2AvailabilityYearsAFVSalarySurplusLowMedianHigh
Manuel Margot29MajorsOFMedium19.57.521.622.4
Rayne Doncon20MinorsSS0004.23.44.25

Total Value:

6.2

sodakbmt

With the Twins also getting cash I like this deal. Get a 4th OF who can handle CF and hits righties along with a lottery ticket prospect in exchange for a (admittedly very good glove) glove first SS without a place to play in the next couple years

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johnbitzer

The cash is probably the $4M Tampa sent to LA in the previous deal, which, by rule, has to follow Margot. It's already baked into our numbers here.

cweisgarber

Sounds like the Twins got an additional $1.5 million in addition to the $4 million attached.

JohannS

Miller won't be ready for MLB until at least another 2 years.

Steve T

Miller has a very good glove... can't hit a lick.. if he makes the show I would be STUNNED!!

winnow

even with $5.5 mil included, LAD is in 110 % CBT tier so they save 4.5x 1.1 = 9.5m AAV in2024 -- this balances trade for LAD. E Hernandez will likely be 3-4m. (I've been trying to trade Margot for months on this site -- I believe Twins could not sign Kike bc he wanted to stay w/ LAD) Update: turns out P/R neutral after signing Hernandez for 4m -- Still prefer kike's versatiity / RHB splits (inc CF) and clubhouse value.

JohannS

MN likes to pick up players that teams want to get rid of.

Weitz50

As a Twins fan. IMO a good swap for both teams. Miller won the minor league gold glove last season. Some say he could play MLB level SS defense right now. The stick leaves a lot to be desired. Plus, the Twins have 3-4 guys ahead of him at SS due to his offense. Twins get one season cheap and a second at or below what it would cost for a league average to a little better outfielder, if they pick up the option and a lotto pick to boot. Win/Win

Mr. Dodger

I would've prefered that the Dodgers got Cory Lewis instead of Noah Miller, but it is what it is.

JohannS

Jefferson Quero wins the minor league GG at catcher & his value is 24. 2 & Noah Miller wins it at SS his value is 2.5? I know that it isn't as simple as that but it's a big difference. Miller is an elite SS, the Twins should have known his value to the club & kept him.

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johnbitzer

It's based on prospect ratings from public sources. Quero is rated much more highly than Miller. Winning a gold glove in the minors as a single data point isn't really a basis for comparison.

sodakbmt

Jefferson Quero had a .779 OPS at AA last year Noah Miller had a .649 OPS at A+ last year That might be why

Steve T

Querro can hit... Miller can't ... simple as that. Catchers that can hit and have great defense are gold. SS who can field but can't hit are a dime a dozen and rarely in this day and age make it. 30 years ago.. okay but not today.

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