Red Sox & Phillies

Submitted by: QFaye

Red Sox

NameAgeLevelP1P2AvailabilityYearsAFVSalarySurplusLowMedianHigh
Alec Bohm28Majors3B1BLow1.422.314.47.96.37.99.4
Jesus Luzardo27MajorsSPMedium1.43511.723.318.723.328
Michael Mercado25MajorsLRP5.41.301.311.31.6
Moises Chace20MinorsLRPSP0009.87.89.811.7

Total Value:

42.3

Phillies

NameAgeLevelP1P2AvailabilityYearsAFVSalarySurplusLowMedianHigh
Aroldis Chapman37MajorsRPHigh0.46.242.11.72.12.5
Jarren Duran28MajorsOFCFLow3.486.739.447.337.947.356.8

Total Value:

49.4

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Ms. Dajuba

💁🏼‍♀️ Moises Chace just underwent Tommy John surgery. 🤔 Bohm is on the IL 👎 Red Sox are in contention 🥰

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johnbitzer

TJS is now so common that it tends to have very little effect on trade value for prospects; it mostly just delays their clocks (see: Andrew Painter).

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Ms. Dajuba

John, Teams in contention are not trading for a pitcher that just had TJS 8 weeks ago and giving up value in a trade. Are you telling me that it is so common that it wouldn’t be a concern? That a team will consider trading for him? And sacrifice 25% of the return tied up in a TJS pitcher, for a team in contention? For a team on the bubble of contention? For a team looking to contend in ‘26? For a re tooling team or a re building team? To all of these I say NO, that they will not consider trading for a pitcher that just had TJS 8 weeks ago. Painter is much more removed from TJS date and is back pitching, teams have at least seen him pitching, he would be considered in trade proposals. I don’t think comparing the two clocks is reasonable. And I certainly don’t believe that “ TJS is now so common that it tends to have very little effect on trade value for prospects”.

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johnbitzer

All I'm saying is that it doesn't change the prospect's valuation all that much, as the talent is still there longer-term and the likelihood is that the pitcher will come back from it just fine. Whether it fits a specific team's package and acquisition strategy is a whole other matter.

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Ms. Dajuba

I think any pitcher that goes down with TJS value drops to zero until he’s on a re hab assignment whether it fits a specific team's package or acquisition strategy as a whole doesn’t matter.

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Ms. Dajuba

“ it doesn't change the prospect's valuation all that much, the talent is still there longer-term and the likelihood is that the pitcher will come back from it just fine” Does that apply to all surgeries (pitcher or a positional player) that are basically a year long time frame like a knee, or an Achilles tendon, or a shoulder….

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johnbitzer

No, it varies by injury type. It's all probability-based. If it's a one-off that typically heals, it shouldn't affect them much. If it's, say, a shoulder injury with a lower probability of success, that will matter more.

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