Guardians & Angels




Guardians & Angels

January 20, 2023


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Adams Minors OF 0.7 0.5 0.7 0.9
Joyce Minors RHP 2 1.6 2 2.4
Sandoval 25 Majors SP Low 4 70.9 30.3 40.6 32.5 40.6 48.7


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Allen Minors LHP 15.7 12.6 15.7 18.8
Karinchak 26 Majors RHRP Low 4 28.6 12.6 16 12.8 16 19.2
Rosario 26 Majors SS OF Medium 1 18.6 7.8 10.8 8.6 10.8 13
  1. Big Bat

    I give it a thumbs up, but I have to ask why the Angels would trade Sandoval? They aren’t deep enough in SP and are probably looking to add another starter aren’t they? Can we get Rengifo in the deal somewhere? I’ve wanted him in Cleveland for a good bit now.

    • Andrew Codding

      And that first question is what makes this interesting. Would they even be willing to move him? It’s why I considered Civale instead of Allen. I am curious about where you see Rengifo’s fit. Personally, I don’t think there’d be room for him, but I’d like to hear what you’re thoughts are on that!

      • Big Bat

        Rengifo fits nicely at 2B when Rosario is sent packing. That would slide Gimenez over to SS where he’s capable of a GG there too. Rengifo brings some much needed thump to the lineup and absolutely bashes LHP. He plays a good 2B too and would benefit from not playing several positions. I’m a big fan of Rengifo and think that last seasons results is just scratching the surface.

        Adding Rengifo also buys time for Rocchio and takes some of the pressure off of Arias. There is an outside chance that Arias earns the starting SS role effectively keeping Gimenez at 2B. In that case Rengifo becomes the utility.

        Should Rengifo prove me right then a couple of highly thought of MIFers become available to deal for other needs.

        This is my reasoning anyway.

        • Andrew Codding

          Good points and an interesting thought! My only holdup with Rengifo would be if the front office is willing to block Arias, Freeman, and Rocchio. My bet is that they’d rather see those guys get playing time than an outside addition, but who really knows? If they are committed to winning right now, Rengifo would make sense. It just depends on how the FO views the roster

          • Big Bat

            Like I said, Rengifo would not necessarily block Arias. Arias could win the SS job outright and that would push Rengifo to a utility role like he currently plays for the Angels. It’s a good insurance policy that reeps benefits even if Arias earns everyday AB. Actually, I’m good with giving Arias the starting SS job initially and let things play out. Either way the Guardians benefit from Rengifo’s bat.

            If Rengifo and Arias prove their worth the Rocchio becomes a very valuable trade chip. I’m not sure what Freeman’s role with the Guardians is going forward. He’s a 2B only due to the lack of arm strength, but he has elite bat to ball skills. You might think I’m crazy, but if I were Kim Ng I would have dealt for Freeman before acquiring Arraez. Similar hitters, but Freeman is a good defensive 2B and can run very well.

  2. Andrew Codding

    I’ve been proposing trades for the Guards in which they acquire a major league southpaw for the rotation all winter, and here’s another iteration. They trade from depth (SS, Bullpen, Farm System) to acquire a guy they can slot in behind Quantrill and mix things up. They also get 2 lottery-ticket prospects in Joyce and Adams, but given their system, I bet they could turn ’em into top 100 prospects by next season (that’s a joke, kinda). LA keeps filling out a roster that needs to compete given the facts of their situation. Trout’s getting older, Ohtani might be leaving, and they’re running out of time. We could see some desperation moves with them, and this could fall into that category. Moving a young, controllable rotation fixture like Sandoval would be a tough pill to swallow, but as I mentioned before, they have some motivation here, and they have a BOATLOAD of lefties already, and moving one would make sense. Amed takes over shortstop and provides an above-average starter at the position. Karinchak goes into the bullpen and contends for the closer. Allen was in there over a guy like Civale just because I thought LA might value Allen more than Civale given his youth and control but I could see Civale in there instead. It’s the type of move I think both teams Could be willing to make given each team’s respective situation. Thoughts? Would Civale be better over Allen? Would either team do it, or is this too much?

    • Big Bat

      Replacing Allen with Civale makes more sense to me. That could get them to bite at this deal. How about letting them keep Joyce and Adams and replacing them with Rengifo? That might work out numbers wise too.

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