augold95Aaron Updike
on February 28, 2023 at 6:02 pm
With the news of Lux’s Injury, Dodgers will be in need of an everyday SS. Also, Adames recently spoke about the good possibility he wouldn’t be a Brewers beyond 2024. This trade expedites the process. The Brewers have both Urias and Turang that could fill in at SS this year, both with some upside. Vargas gives Milwaukee possible IF starter, of which could be needed if Urias slides over from 3B/2B to SS, while also supplying high offensive upside. The other two pitchers sweeten the deal and bolster a farm system lacking quality pitching.
augold95Aaron Updike
on February 28, 2023 at 6:12 pm
Would you rather have a Rojas/Vargas middle IF or a Adames/Rojas middle IF? Sure Vargas can play second, but without the shift, he will likely be exposed on defense playing 2B consistently. He profiles much better as a corner IF.
Rojas would be more valuable at SS with his plus defense. Yes he’d bring plus defense to second but that wouldn’t be as valuable as it is at SS. Also, would you rather have Vargas for 6 years or Adames for 2 years. With this in mind I’d want Rojas/Vargas so I’m not losing out on 4 years of Vargas.
augold95Aaron Updike
on February 28, 2023 at 6:47 pm
Adames is much more of a known commodity. For a team that is trying to compete with the Padres, that is needed more than potential. Also, with the Dodgers virtually unlimited supply of cash, replacing or resigning Adames after 2 years will not be an issue.
I think you are vastly underestimating the importance of a good defense at 2B with the shift ban, having great range will be paramount, and Vargas doesnt provide this.
Adames is great but Dodgers are still competitors without trading for him. Vargas has had this perception of being a bad defender but he’s gotten faster and has been putting in work to get better. He won’t win a gold glove but he’ll hold his own at second even with the shift ban.
acarter13Andrew Carter
on February 28, 2023 at 6:15 pm
I don’t think the Brewers would do this trade. Brewers are trying to compete in 2023 (in their own weird confusing way) so trading Adames doesn’t make much sense since he still doesn’t make that much.
If the Dodgers do this, they could wind up just using Rojas at second and Adames at short. Rojas has a bit of experience in the past at second, albeit not much. This trade would likely be a net positive for 2023 for the Dodgers, but not a great trade in the long run.
augold95Aaron Updike
on February 28, 2023 at 6:22 pm
This may hurt the Brewers a little on Offense this year, but saves them money, and could end up being a wash depending on the play of Turang/Urias/Vargas this year. It also puts them in a much better position in the IF and pitching for the next 6 years, enough they may be willing to take that hit this year.
With the news of Lux’s Injury, Dodgers will be in need of an everyday SS. Also, Adames recently spoke about the good possibility he wouldn’t be a Brewers beyond 2024. This trade expedites the process. The Brewers have both Urias and Turang that could fill in at SS this year, both with some upside. Vargas gives Milwaukee possible IF starter, of which could be needed if Urias slides over from 3B/2B to SS, while also supplying high offensive upside. The other two pitchers sweeten the deal and bolster a farm system lacking quality pitching.
This just ends up with a hole at second for the dodgers who were planning on playing Vargas there for majority of games.
Would you rather have a Rojas/Vargas middle IF or a Adames/Rojas middle IF? Sure Vargas can play second, but without the shift, he will likely be exposed on defense playing 2B consistently. He profiles much better as a corner IF.
Rojas would be more valuable at SS with his plus defense. Yes he’d bring plus defense to second but that wouldn’t be as valuable as it is at SS. Also, would you rather have Vargas for 6 years or Adames for 2 years. With this in mind I’d want Rojas/Vargas so I’m not losing out on 4 years of Vargas.
Adames is much more of a known commodity. For a team that is trying to compete with the Padres, that is needed more than potential. Also, with the Dodgers virtually unlimited supply of cash, replacing or resigning Adames after 2 years will not be an issue.
I think you are vastly underestimating the importance of a good defense at 2B with the shift ban, having great range will be paramount, and Vargas doesnt provide this.
Adames is great but Dodgers are still competitors without trading for him. Vargas has had this perception of being a bad defender but he’s gotten faster and has been putting in work to get better. He won’t win a gold glove but he’ll hold his own at second even with the shift ban.
I don’t think the Brewers would do this trade. Brewers are trying to compete in 2023 (in their own weird confusing way) so trading Adames doesn’t make much sense since he still doesn’t make that much.
If the Dodgers do this, they could wind up just using Rojas at second and Adames at short. Rojas has a bit of experience in the past at second, albeit not much. This trade would likely be a net positive for 2023 for the Dodgers, but not a great trade in the long run.
This may hurt the Brewers a little on Offense this year, but saves them money, and could end up being a wash depending on the play of Turang/Urias/Vargas this year. It also puts them in a much better position in the IF and pitching for the next 6 years, enough they may be willing to take that hit this year.