Red Sox & Indians


Red Sox & Indians

September 10, 2019

Red Sox

Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Jones Minors 3B 25.7 20.6 25.7 30.8
Lindor 25 Majors SS Very low 2.3 119.5 44.8 74.7 74.7 80.6 86.6


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Bogaerts 26 Majors SS Very low 6.2 238.6 122.0 116.6 92.7 105.7 118.6
  1. John Bitzer

    Thought I’d try this as a thought experiment. The Indians would get a jump on replacing Lindor with another superstar SS, one with more years of control. Lindor would replace Betts as the smiling face of the Sox franchise for the next two years (assuming Betts is traded separately). Red Sox also get a top prospect to retool with.

    • John Furlong

      I don’t see the Red Sox doing that since Xander is controlled through 2026. It is going to be very hard for the Indians to trade Lindor. I hope that they find a way to keep him. Lindor is the face of the Indians and fans will have a tough time dealing with a Lindor trade.

      • Will M

        But Lindor is also probably going to make more than Bogaerts by 2021, and the leave via free agency. He is another one adamant against an extension, and any extension they give him will have a higher AAV than the $20mill Bogaerts is locked up for. That he is the face of the franchise is irrelevant; teams get new faces all the time. Dealing Lindor for Bogaerts increases their chances of keeping Bieber and Clevinger atop the rotation. And keeping those 3 lessens the chances of becoming some rebuilding loser team that sits in te AL central cellar and plays in front of a lot of empty seats. And if the Indians think they will need to let Lindor walk and rebuild, it does make the whole Trevor Bauer trade for a bunch players already in MLB look stupid; they might as well have just kept Taylor Trammell.

  2. John Furlong

    First, the Indians did not trade Taylor Trammell, the Reds did. I understand that the Indians will likely trade Lindor as it is what a smart small market team does. The point remains that Lindor is different than many of the players the Indians have traded in the past as he has that it factor that makes him very popular to the fan base. Many fans will have a hard time with a Lindor trade. Lindor is not your typical face of the Indians. He is a face of baseball. I understand that a trade will likely happen and the return will help the Indians stay competitive rather than being forced to rebuild. I don’t see this trade, however, as they would likely use the money they would have to pay Bogaerts, to pay Bieber and Clevinger. I see a trade similar to the Bauer trade where the Indians get pieces to help them compete and pieces for the future to keep them competitive.

    The economics of baseball still are very unfair to the small market teams and their fan bases.

    • John Bitzer

      I agree with your points. I think what Will was referring to about the Trammell trade was that it was reported that the initial trade was one-way: Bauer for Trammell. The Indians’ FO was, at the same time they were talking to the Reds, talking to the Padres about flipping Trammell to them once it occurred. So in that sense, it could be argued that the Indians could have kept Trammell. It could also be argued that they never had any intention of doing so, since they wanted MLB-level talent.

      • John Furlong

        Yes, I think the Indians only had interest in Trammell as a means to get a trade done that provided them immediate and future help. I also think and understand that the Indians will eventually trade Lindor to help keep the team in contention. I just think that a Lindor trade will be harder for the Cleveland fan base to accept than those trades of players of the past. I do appreciate that the Cleveland Front Office strives to stay competitive and does not want to go through a long rebuild.

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