Guardians & Braves & Cardinals




Guardians & Braves & Cardinals

April 21, 2021


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Franklin Minors OF 2.4 1.9 2.4 2.9
Gorman Minors 3B 35.1 28.1 35.1 42.1
Muller Minors LHP 12.5 10 12.5 15
Pache 22 Majors OF Low 6.0 75.1 9.7 65.4 52.3 65.4 78.5
Shewmake Minors SS 11.3 9 11.3 13.6


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Ramirez 28 Majors 3B 2B Medium 3.0 114.7 33.4 81.3 65 81.3 97.5
Thompson Minors LHP 11.4 9.1 11.4 13.7


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Backstrom Minors 1B 0.9 0.6 0.9 1.2
Plesac 26 Majors SP Low 5.0 76.1 30.6 45.5 36.4 45.5 54.6
  1. Andrew Codding

    The Indians are gonna be winning this fall. They’re not. Moving Plesac and Ramirez could be options to get their farm system ready for the rebuild. Trading Ramirez to the Braves would fill a big gap for Atlanta, seeing that they don’t really have a good 3rd baseman. Plesac to the Red Birds helps bolster a rotation that only really has Jack Flaherty. The move jump-starts the Indians rebuild and gives really good pieces to contenders. Thoughts?

    • Big Bat

      What makes you think the Indians will be in a rebuild?

      • Andrew Codding

        We can’t win. It won’t be a full-out rebuild like the Pirates and the Rockies and Tigers, but it’ll happen. Chernoff has proven that he won’t pay someone to play well (Lindor, Kluber, Clevinger, Bauer, etc.) and he likes to maximize on the return when he’s getting rid of one of the stars, quite often, a few years in advance to when they become free agents. I could see Ramirez staying, but he’d have to take a smaller deal to stay. Plesac will probably jump onto the back of the “trade all the starting pitchers” train, right behind Carrasco, Clev, Kluber, Bauer, and even before them, C.C. Sabathia and Cliff Lee. They take talent, elevate it, then sell it to get more parts. I just think that it’s most likely that both are gone, almost a guarantee that Plesac’s gonna go, so why not capitalize now?

        • Indians could win if they were willing to deal a Plesac for a bat. They refuse. They won’t win. Even if they somehow reach the postseason they will crash and burn like the last few tries.

          Glad to see one Indians fan with a realistic outlook.

  2. 24, did any of those pitchers still on a cheap contract with 5 years of control like Plesac? The answer is no. Ramirez is already on a team friendly deal so he does not need to be moved. Don’t overreact over the first 16 games. The White Sox are also at 500 and the Twins are doing worse. It is way too early to give up.

    • Andrew Codding

      Obviously, this trade will not happen. This trade is just theoretical. I wanted to see what it would take for Ramirez and/or Plesac to be moved. I know that it’s too early to judge a season, and I myself have had to remind my family members of that fact. I entered the season with high hopes for the Tribe, but they have dimmed significantly. I know it’s too soon to judge, but this trade is just a “what if” type of trade. I don’t suggest the Indians trade either Ramirez or Plesac, at least at this time.

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