Mariners & Guardians




Mariners & Guardians

October 19, 2021


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Gose 30 Majors LHRP Low 3.0 1.5 1.0 0.5 0.3 0.5 0.7
Rosario 25 Majors SS OF Medium 2.0 25.9 12.0 13.9 11.1 13.9 16.7


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Aguilar Minors 1B 3.8 3 3.8 4.6
DeLoach Minors OF 6.6 5.3 6.6 7.9
Trammell 23 Majors OF Medium 5.3 8.5 3.4 5.1 4.1 5.1 6.1
  1. Andrew Wood

    Redux of the Guardians/Mariners trade from earlier today after considering comments regarding Cleveland’s 40-man & prospect situation.

    Mariners receive Rosario plus the interesting but older Anthony Gose who free up some space.

    Cleveland gets two non-40-man prospects with bright futures at First Base and Right Field, plus Taylor Trammell, who needs to be on the 40 but is also ready for his ML shot and in combination with Straw in the OF will give Cleveland one of the best defensive outfields in the game.

  2. Ty Archy

    It’s not a bad trade on paper, but I don’t think the Guardians are looking to move Amed. I am also not high on Trammell personally. It’s one of those trades I would trust the FO’s opinion if they did it, but not something I would personally do.

    Guardians lack proven MLB hitters and they want to compete in 22. Hard to believe they will trade one of their only proven hitters for a guy without strong overall minor league numbers (in my mind) even if he has a pedigree…

    • Eli Kov

      This is a poor trade for the Guardians.. If the M’s want a LHRP.. Francisco Perez would be more probable… Not because Gose is so much better.. but he can be..

      Keep Trammell.. he’s been moves to 23 or the 30 clubs in the span of six months (note.. this is hyperbole) for a reason.. he’s not able to hit.. hasn’t hit any where he’s gone.. and there’s no reason to believe he’ll ever hit..

      Hard pass..

  3. Big Bat

    I’m certainly not opposed to trading Rosario and he’d be a great fit in Seattle’s big park. I don’t agree with Coach’s suggestion that Cleveland isn’t looking to move Rosario. I believe the opposite and him remaining at SS the entire season supports that. That’s where his market value is the greatest, but it wasn’t where he was most valuable to Cleveland.

    There’s room for a deal there, but I don’t think the Guardians’ brass is willing to deal Gose. There’s something about that 100 mph FB coming from the southside that’s appealing to them. Regardless, there’s nothing coming back to Cleveland in this deal that helps. Rosario produced just over 2 WAR this season and is 25 yrs old. There’s no reason to think that he will not continue to post 2-4 WAR seasons. That value will need to be returned or the prospect good enough to think that he can replace that production. These just don’t do that.

    I’ll tell you what would work and it would give Seattle surplus value and that is Rosario for Haniger. If you’d rather give Lewis I would do that too, but that would be an overpay on your part. Clearly Seattle needs a SS upgrade and Cleveland needs an OF upgrade. It just so happens the Mariners are rich in OFers and the Guardians in SS’s. Seems perfectly logical, but it’s just not that easy.

  4. James Merkle

    Clearly Seattle needs a SS upgrade? JP Crawford was a 3.1 fWAR player last year is 26 years old and controlled for 3 more years. I believe the original plan was to have Rosario as a backup plan for 2nd base if the M’s don’t acquire a better player for the position.

    • Andrew Wood

      This is what I was thinking, I expect competition for Marcus Semien to be fierce and expensive. If the Mariners can get Rosario then he fits neatly as what I see as the second best option on the market (assuming there is a willingness to trade Rosario) to play 2B (and potentially a super utility role as 2B/SS/CF backup if they did land Semien).

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