Athletics & Padres




Athletics & Padres

January 15, 2022


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Adams 30 Majors RHRP Medium 3.0 4.1 2.4 1.7 1.3 1.7 2.1
Cronenworth 27 Majors SS 2B Low 4.0 104.9 46.6 58.3 46.7 58.3 70
Gore Minors LHP 9 7.2 9 10.8
Hill 31 Majors LHRP Medium 3.0 2.2 1.4 0.8 0.5 0.8 1.1
Profar 28 Majors OF 2B Low 2.0 7.0 15.3 -8.3 -10 -8.3 -6.6
Weathers 21 Majors SP LHRP Low 6.0 15.8 5.7 10.1 8.1 10.1 12.1


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Manaea 29 Majors SP High 1.0 28.6 10.1 18.5 14.8 18.5 22.2
Olson 27 Majors 1B High 2.0 71.2 30.0 41.2 37.1 45.3 53.6
Pinder 29 Majors OF UTIL Medium 1.0 3.8 2.8 1 0.7 1 1.3
    • pops litteral

      This trade variation switched Profar who hits RHP for Pinder who hits LHP best. Myers $22.5 was dropped in his favor and utilityman usefullness in the INF and/or OF. A reasonable cost for the acquired pitching and the A’s next SS.

      The traded salaries here help both clubs fill needs without destroying the team budgets.

      I also thought Bob Melvin would get comfort having those Ex-A’s on board.

      BTW: I just noticed a 7 hour difference in the posting time credited & time on the West Coast?

      • Nathan Thompson

        Oakland already has the next SS in-system. It was one thing when you thought Cronenworth could be controlled for 6 years but that’s not the case and it’s time to move on.

        • pops litteral

          If you mean Nick Allen?
          …right now, he looks like a platoon type.
          In the mean time, Cronenworth can handle SS or 2B if Allen comes around, great, if not, great.

          Cronenworth’s value will continue to grow, his pay will grow but won’t catch up to value for a few years.
          Look at it like this:
          – Manaea for Gore & Weathers
          – Pinder for Profar
          – 1B Olson for Cronenworth, our next SS + 2 RPs.

          Works for me


          • Nathan Thompson

            I’m sure it does. But you’re wrong. Don’t subject A’s fans to another year of Profar… they’ve done their time. Trading Olson and not getting at least 5 years of team control from the primary asset in return is a mistake.

  1. jq 7925

    Payroll hit to A’s of players involved before trade:

    2022 – $27.9M±
    2023 – $15M±

    After trade:

    2022 – $20.7M± AAV
    2023 – $20.7M± AAV
    2024 – $13.6M± AAV
    2025 – $12.5M± AAV
    2026 – $2.8M± AAV
    2027 – $2.8M± AAV

    This not only DOUBLES the payroll hit in length and severity, it looks better than it actually is, as Cronenworth will actually earn more progressively through years 2-4 kicking the bulk of the payroll hit further down the road.

    Additionally, Cronenworth will be in his walk year as the A’s return to contention, creating an immediate hole that needs to be filled. Weathers and Gore and the only pieces the A’s would control past year 4.


    I also think the A’s will pass on re-acquiring “Yipson Throwfar”.

    • pops litteral

      How many times do the A’s keep valued stars until they walk away as free agents?

      What makes you think these or any other A’s players won’t be traded?

      Where you and I differ the most is I see every year important for now & the future,

      The A’s are contenders this year and every year if they play it right.

      You seem to be protecting a mental projection of an A’s roster 4-5 years from now that magically evolves into a winner.

      No prospects come with guarantees but those already playing are proven.

      A’s need to cultivate serious up the middle defense which simultaneously helps new & old pitching to evolve into a top staff.

      BTW: A’s sent $25 mil to the Pods and took back $10 + change. All are tradeable for more in the future. All fill needs. All but 2 have options remaining.

      The only question is will SDP do it?

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