Phillies & Guardians & Athletics




Phillies & Guardians & Athletics

January 26, 2022


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Chapman 28 Majors 3B High 2.0 45.6 23.7 21.9 19.7 24.1 28.5
Laureano 26 Majors OF Medium 4.0 84.3 23.8 60.5 48.4 60.5 72.6
Piscotty 30 Majors OF High 1.0 0 8.6 -8.6 -8.6 -8.6 -8.6


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Hoskins 28 Majors 1B Very low 2.0 34.3 19.2 15.1 13.6 16.6 19.6
Vierling 24 Majors OF Medium 6.0 20.8 12.1 8.7 7 8.7 10.4


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Abel Minors RHP 28.2 22.6 28.2 33.8
Allen Minors LHP 5.3 4.2 5.3 6.4
Arias Minors SS 21.8 17.4 21.8 26.2
Falter 24 Majors LHRP Low 6.0 16.2 9.3 6.9 5.5 6.9 8.3
O'Hoppe Minors C 8.5 6.8 8.5 10.2
Rojas Minors OF 9.7 7.8 9.7 11.6
  1. chris salber

    There has been chatter of the Phillies being interested in Chapman and Laureano to fill some of their holes. Many of the trade proposals are laughable (this coming from a Phillies fan). The only way I see a trade for both happening is getting a third team involved. I tried making it work without including a big contract because I doubt the A’s would attach one with Chapman and Laureano. Although I don’t see this trade necessarily working, I think the concept is valid. Integrate a team who needs a bat and has an excess of prospects (Guardians or Rays), the Phillies could use a piece that has value (Hoskins) to get more prospects for the A’s, the Phillies, in turn, fill their holes in CF and improve the team defense for a ground ball heavy pitching staff.

    In this one, the Guardians get a middle-of-the-order bat in Hoskins and a 4th OF with good advanced metrics and upside. I could see him developing into an everyday player in the right situation.
    The A’s restock their farm with quantity over quality. Able and Arias are the headliners but O’hoppe has good promise as an MLB catcher with a plus bat, the industry is split on Rojas (could be a Laureano or is a glove only guy), Falter and Allen could go in the rotation in 2022 enabling them to more easily move some of their pitching.

  2. Nathan Thompson

    Down vote for Oakland.

    It’s a solid effort but one of the things it hinges on is Oakland coveting Mick Abel. He’s a prospect type they’ve actively avoided, in the Draft and in trades, for going on 20 years and I don’t think this winter is when they’re going to change.

    • chris salber

      I know they don’t typically draft a HS prep arm, although Cahill did work out. However, Abel is 2 years along in his development so there might be a slightly different view on him from when he was drafted. If that is the holdup from the A’s would it be more feasible to sub the Rays for the Guardians sending both Hoskins and Able there (Rays have a long history of drafting HS prep arms) and obtaining prospects from their organization?

      • Nathan Thompson

        Cahill was a 2nd round pick. And the A’s have spent the equivalent of 2nd round money on other HS arms… all of whom busted.

        Abel has less than 45 IP in Low-A ball, I don’t think that’s enough for Oakland to shift their long-standing position. The closest comp I could find was when the A’s traded for Grant Holmes in 2016 as part of the Rich Hill/Josh Reddick trade with the Dodgers. But even there, Holmes had over 250 IP on his pro resume and he came over with Frankie Montas and Jharel Cotton, guys of similar or greater value.

        Put another way… I think Eagles will draft an off-ball LB in the 1st round before Oakland makes a HS RHP the centerpiece of a deal involving Chapman and Laureano.

        I think the idea of Chapman and Laureano to the Phillies was yet another example of someone being paid to write about baseball but having little clue as to what they’re talking about.

          • Nathan Thompson

            Sometimes it’s about finding a new way to tell the same story.

      • Nathan Thompson

        Do the Phillies need another SP or is there any chatter about adding to the rotation?

        • chris salber

          The rotation is the 1 strength on the team. But, you can never have too much pitching, so I’m sure they would listen on Plesac (from your other trade proposal). Unfortunately, they have too many holes in other areas. They have no one in CF on the roster, a hodgepodge of Quad A players in LF, and the worst infield defense for a groundball heavy pitching staff. Some areas will be addressed in FA, but you can’t buy everything. I think they have to use their trade chips to try and address some areas of need.

          • Nathan Thompson

            I almost used Rojas instead of Vierling in my deal but the 8.7 TV fit perfect. I know they need defensive help but I figured they’d pursue Bryant or Correa for the left side and 2B upgrades are usually easy to find; plus you’ve got Stott ready soon.

            Thanks for the info.

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