Orioles & Twins




Orioles & Twins

August 2, 2022


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Cano 28 Minors RHP Low 5.4 1.1 0.3 0.8 0.7 0.8 1
Nunez Minors RHP 1.2 0.9 1.2 1.5
Povich Minors LHP 1.6 1.1 1.6 2.1
Rojas Minors LHP 1.3 1 1.3 1.6


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Lopez 28 Majors RHRP Medium 2.4 12.2 6.6 5.6 4.5 5.6 6.7
    • Alejandro Sanchez

      Or in this case, four dimes for a dollar. The only guy that I kind of like is Povich, but he doesn’t have a third pitch yet and he projects more as a reliever. Trading an all star closer for two middling pitching prospects, a decent relief prospect, and a 4A bullpen arm seems like a bad get.

      • Brandon Dillman

        On the surface it does seem underwhelming. But I’ve learned not to doubt Mike Elias. That guy evaluates talent as well as anybody in baseball. Just look at what he’s done with that franchise thus far. They have the #1 farm system in baseball, the #1 bullpen in baseball, the rotation has massively overachieved, they’re in the wild card hunt with the lowest payroll in baseball. Most of the 26 man roster are waiver claims, rule 5 guys, trade acquisitions or cheap free agent signings. If he likes those prospects in return for Lopez, who are we to doubt him?

        • Alejandro Sanchez

          The fact that the GM is good doesn’t make this a good trade. We saw these same Twins absolutely work over the Rays in the Nelson Cruz trade last year. Does the fact that the Rays have traditionally fleeced teams in trades make that less bad? No.

          Pablo Lopez is a controllable arm who can go multiple innings and handle closer duties, while putting up All Star numbers. Absolutely no reason why he should have been traded for this little. They could have probably gotten a better package if they’d shopped him harder, or if they didn’t get anything better, then you keep your all star closer. The package is kind of pathetic if I’m being honest.

          • Brandon Dillman

            First off, it’s JORGE Lopez, not Pablo. Pablo is a starting pitcher for the Marlins. Not sure if you even know who we’re talking about. He has been very good this season as a closer, but a deep dive into his numbers suggest he’s just a good relief pitcher who’s been very lucky. With a FIP near 3.00, a BB/9 of 3.2, a bad chase rate, spin numbers and given the fact that this is the first season he’s ever been anything but a bad pitcher and you can see why teams would be skeptical about trading for him. He’s referred to as “effectively wild” by most. Electric stuff, but he never really knows where it’s going.

        • Joe Metts

          I I’ve learned to not doubt Elias and his team. In this particular case though I didn’t even need to dig too deep into that mind frame. Lopez had no value 4 months ago. Elias (and Lopez himself) made him an asset and got 4 young arms in return. Are we forgetting who Jorge is? No disrespect to the man but everything suggests he is playing above his head. Bautista will get a shot at closing games and should be fine. More than a fine trade for the Orioles. Especially with the Orioles system working with these guys.

  1. Anj Schmidt

    Looking at this realistically, Lopez is replaceable and 29 years old. Orioles just flipped him for two lottery tickets who both look good so far, and a pitchability strike throwing lefty who is somewhat reminiscent of Means, to me.

    You might not like the Orioles selling off, but they’re sticking to their guns. Home stretch of the rebuild isn’t the time to get sentimental.

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