Cubs & Rays




Cubs & Rays

May 23, 2023


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Adam 31 Majors RHRP High 3.8 9.5 4.6 4.9 3.9 4.9 5.9
Ramirez 28 Majors OF Medium 2.8 8.9 5 3.9 3.1 3.9 4.7


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Jensen Minors RHP 1.8 1.4 1.8 2.2
Little Minors LHP 0.3 0.2 0.3 0.4
Wicks Minors LHP 6.3 5 6.3 7.6
  1. Bennett Johnson

    This trade is a tribute to the “genius” of Jed Hoyer. Cubs get two players who they previously let go. Adam is better than any reliever on the current Cubs staff. They released him and kept pitchers like Rowan Wick, who is toiling in the minors. Last year Cubs had to choose between Michael Hermosillo, Jackson Clint Frazier, and Harold Ramirez. Of course, they traded Ramirez for nothing, kept the other two duds. Meanwhile Ramirez has gone on to be quite successful with Rays. Frankly, I’m surprised his value isn’t higher.

    In order to pull off the trade, the Cubs have to cobble together three former #1 picks, which is a testament to their scouting department. Last year, they grabbed Horton with the number 7 pick and passed on Collier, Lee, Parada, etc. Last offseason, they go out and blow money on Jameson Taillon, who has been a major letdown. In the past two seasons, they have given @300 AB’s to over the hill veterans like Jason Hayward and Eric Hosmer, while keeping younger, more deserving players on the bench. I honestly think the worst person on BTV could take over the Cubs and do a better job than Jed.

    Rays spend half as much per win as Cubs, and they are continually a contender. The only reason Jed Hoyer keeps his job is because Tom Ricketts is the bigger idiot. Go Rays!

    • M P

      LOL. That gave me a good laugh.

      Sorry for your troubles Benjo. It’s tough being a sports fan sometimes.

  2. Bennett Johnson

    So glad I could bring a little sunshine into your dugout, MP. These are sad days for Cubs fans. Watching the Cubs send retreads like Taillon, Mancini, and Bellinger onto the field (Those 3 alone constitute over half of the Rays 2023 projected payroll.) is very dispiriting. If they wanted expensive veterans, why not hang onto Rizzo, Bryant, Schwarber, Baez, Castellanos, Darvish, Contreras, etc. At least, they would have competed the last 3 years. For all his trades, I’m not sure any of Jed’s acquisitions will do much at the big league level. PCA might be another Miles Straw. Brown looks good. I sorta like Caissie. But to break up a competitive team for a few wannabes? Spend all this dough on veterans, because the have “leadership” ability. What a bunch of malarkey! The problem is Jed gets away with it, because he doesn’t get called out on it. There are no consequences for his BAD LEADERSHIP. People go to Wrigley, sing “Take Me Out To The Ballgame,” get drunk and go home happy.

    • M P

      Do the Cubs have any good relievers they want to part with? Rays would love to take them off their hands.

  3. Bennett Johnson


    I took you up earlier on your Leiter for Patino offer. No untouchables on Cubbies, except Steele. Problem is Cubs need arms, too. What’s wrong with Patino anyway? Headcase? Mechanics? Injury? I haven’t really followed his career that closely. When he was with San Diego, they made him out to be the next Bret Saberhagen. Live arm.

    • M P

      Patino has no control right now. He was a better pitcher when he first walked through the doors at Rays Central several years ago, so I think this is just a simple case of him needing a change of scenery. He isn’t buying what the Rays are selling.

      Because he’s out of options next year, I expect he will be traded for cash considerations or outright released. He has no trade value at this point.

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