Rays & Marlins




Rays & Marlins

August 10, 2023


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
McIntosh Minors C 1.4 1.1 1.4 1.7
Mesa Jr. 20 Minors OF 6.3 5 6.3 7.5
Perez 20 Majors SP 6.3 98 34 63.9 51.1 63.9 76.7
Rogers 25 Majors SP Low 3.3 33.5 20.1 13.4 10.7 13.4 16.1


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Diaz 31 Majors 1B Low 3.3 76.9 31.9 44.9 35.9 44.9 53.9
Eflin 29 Majors SP Medium 2.3 76.6 32.5 44.1 35.2 44.1 52.9
Margot 28 Majors OF Medium 1.3 13.1 14.2 -1.1 -1.4 -1.1 -0.9
  1. M P

    Surprised you want to trade Diaz and not Paredes.

    • Guillermo hernandez

      I DO want to trade Paredes lol. It’s a good thing our LF wall isn’t two rows deeper, because that fucker would only have like three home runs this year lol. At some point though, I might have to admit 20 wall scrapers are worth the same as hitting 20 off the D ring.

      I was in the middle of typing this out when you responded. Here’s kind of my thoughts….

      This off season will have a lot of interesting decisions for the Rays. Unlike last year, the choice to basically stand pat will not be one of them. You can’t lose McClanahan, Springs, and Rasmussen and hope what you have left is enough. It won’t be. In my off season, I infuse the line up with a lot of young talent. The Rays have a plethora of first baseman, and that makes Yandy expendable, even if he can’t be replaced. They are better off using his surplus to enhance the pitching staff than leaving Aranda or Mead in the minors or sending Raley to the OF. I would also trade Glasnow, as you have to look at next year as transitory, and get something of value for Glas before he leaves. We’re not the Angels, we don’t want a draft pick after the first round in lieu of trading Ohtani in a lost season. We want your best minor leaguer for our stud that gonna be a FA.

      I’m not completely gutting the team though. There’s still enough talent to win 90 games. Civale, Bradley, Perez, Rogers, Baz could be a top 10 rotation, and the Rays still have a stacked infield.

      The Marlins have been promising for like 5 years. At some point, they have to win. They move some future wins in Perez and some injury risk in Rogers for a top 20 SP and a top 5 1B.

    • Guillermo hernandez

      Do we even tender Rasmussen? If he needs TJ, he misses all next year. And then you have to hope that he’s even reasonably decent after his third Tommy John surgery. Man, it would be ruthless to non-tender him, but it happened to Eovaldi.

      • M P

        You and I are thinking the same. A rotation of Glas, Eflin, Civale, Bradley and Fleming/Baz, and absolutely no depth just won’t get it done next year. We lost 3 of perhaps the best 25-50 pitchers in baseball this year for a year or more, so it’s comical to think we won’t lose pitchers to injuries next year. We need more arms, even if the quality isn’t up to our usual standards. Ideally, I’d prefer quality AND quantity, but things are pretty bleak in Rays-land right now. There is also the clubhouse issues that need to be addressed in the offseason, and I’m not sure how those get addressed without creating holes on the team. Here are my thoughts:

        1. Aroz is traded. I don’t know if he is the problem or not, but his total lack of interest in playing for the Rays over the past 2 months has become a real problem. He needs to go. If we can get the BTV assigned value for him, then his trade should fill at least 1 hole on the rotation (plus provide 2-3 other quality players/prospects).

        2. Margot and Mejia are traded. No biggie and no return.

        3. Glasnow – Rays have to consider trading him for the reasons you mentioned, but also because they need arms. Turning 1 Glasnow into 2 Eflins (if possible) makes the Rays better, whether those arms arrive via trade or via free agency because of the cash freed up moving Glasnow. I guarantee you the Rays are looking at their budget for next year and seeing $12MM plus tied up in pitchers who won’t pitch for all or a majority of the year (Springs, Ras and McClanny) plus an additional $25MM with Glasnow, and thinking about cutting payroll. That $37MM is basically 1/2 this year’s payroll of around $75MM.

        4. Diaz – I probably wouldn’t trade him, but like you said, it’s hard to ignore the surplus 1B in Mead (his defensive grades actually went down in MLB’s midyear rankings), Aranda, Shenton and even Raley (who I suspect will be a full time COF next year if Aroz and Margot are traded). I currently think Diaz will transition more to DH next year, but trading him has its merits too. If the Rays keep Mead at 3B though, that allows for the possibility of trading one of B.Lowe or Paredes.

        5. Last but not least is the very real possibility that Ras gets non-tendered. I don’t actually expect to see him pitch (well) for the Rays again. It sucks, but it’s reality. He will be returning with a brace on his arm, whatever that means, and as a 2X TJS pitcher. The Rays have to consider nontendering him or requiring him to sign a 2 year deal for the money he’s probably due via arbitration next year. The risk he never pitches again (or never pitches well again) is insanely high.

        Like you, I expect a very busy offseason. Rays pitching has become a huge problem that must be addressed (at least in part) via trades.

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