Cubs & Brewers




Cubs & Brewers

March 31, 2020


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Arcia 24 Majors SS Medium 3.0 1.2 2.2 -1 0 0 0
Cain 33 Majors OF Low 3.0 35.4 51.0 -15.6 -17.6 -13.1 -8.5
Hader 25 Majors LHRP Very low 4.0 80.7 35.2 45.5 45.5 49.6 53.6


Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High
Almora Jr. 25 Majors OF Medium 3.0 1.4 1.6 -0.2 0 0 0
Baez 26 Majors SS 2B Low 2.0 68.5 25.0 43.5 41.5 49.4 57.2
Kimbrel 31 Majors RHRP 3.0 33.1 48 -14.9 -16.9 -12.6 -8.3
  1. James Berg

    The trade basically swaps players at the same position, but different values. With that, as well as being division rivals, the trade would not happen.

    • Bennett Johnson

      Baez is my favorite player, but the Cubs did not make the playoffs last year with him at short. They’re bringing back the same crew this year (if and when play resumes), minus Hamels and Castellanos. Does anyone realistically expect them to get better/ They have needed a bullpen ace for years. Same for CF. I’m looking at this trade from the Cubs perspective. Despite his age, Cain is a great defender. He had a down year offensively but seems like the type of player who ages well. I think he will bounce back. Arcia is a switch-hitter with potential. Hader is lights out. Combined they represent 10 controllable years. The Cubs have not been able to sign any of their core players to a long-term contract. Baez is a free agent after two. Kimbrel and Almora represent 6 years of deteriorating talent. The only way this backfires on the Cubs is if Hader blows his arm out, which is always a possibility.

  2. Sean Ricky-Bobby

    If the Cubs made this trade it would be terrible PR and the fans would revolt. I think everyone would take the Baez side of a Hader/Baez trade.

    • Bennett Johnson

      I have followed the Cubs since 1959. The fans never revolt, despite the incompetence of leadership.

      • Sean Ricky-Bobby

        Bryant and Rizzo are certainly bigger fan favorites. The Brewers would take this trade 9/10 times, on paper its fair but the Cubs are taking on so much more risk with a longer commit to Cain and the key return being a pitcher. If Hader is healthy all 4 years and Cain remains a netural asset for the next three years its a win for the Cubs but only slight value win since Baez produces so much value as a position player. Baez is less risky and even if Kimbrel is somehow perma washed he is only under contract for two years if they exercise his club option compared to Cain’s 3 at a higher AAV. The odds this trade would blow up on Brewers is much lower then is for the Cubs and that is before factoring in that inter divisional aspect.

  3. Bennett Johnson

    You make a good point about the third guaranteed year on Cain’s contract and AAV. So which is worse, 2 years of Kimbrel blowing saves or 3 of Cain in center and leading off, even though he is past his prime? I look at it as having 2 F’s on my grade card versus 3 C’s. Theo should have invested in a radar gun before signing Kimbrel. It’s a conundrum for sure.

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