Red Sox & Brewers & Athletics Submitted by: CraftBrew November 12, 2021 Red Sox Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High Woodruff 28 Majors SP Very low 3.0 134.4 35.5 98.9 90.4 110.4 130.5 110.40 109.00 -1.40 Brewers Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High Murphy 26 Majors C Low 4.0 86.9 27.6 59.3 53.4 65.2 77.1 Olson 27 Majors 1B Medium 2.0 71.2 30.0 41.2 37.1 45.3 53.6 110.50 110.40 -0.10 Athletics Name Age Level P1 P2 Availablility Years AFV Salary Surplus Low Median High Casas Minors 1B 54.4 43.5 54.4 65.3 Downs Minors 2B 11.8 9.4 11.8 14.2 Mayer Minors SS 42.8 34.2 42.8 51.4 109.00 110.50 1.50
Good BOLD trade. Looks fair but I’m sure these questions would be asked by the GM’s.
Boston: Do I really want to give up Casas? He’s our 1B for the future for low cost and lots of control.
A’s: Would I do better trading Olson and Murphy on separate deals? I would think I could get more prospects including some future pitching.
Brewers: Is Murphy’s ceiling high enough to make this trade work? They could sure use Olson but giving up Woodruff is a risk.
There is probably second guessing on every trade made so this is nothing new. I can see this trade fitting the needs of all 3 teams. IMO this is a good trade that should be given lots of consideration by all 3 teams. I think this would be a good featured trade.
IMO the Brewers would say no quickly. The Brewers are not going to lose a TOR pitcher for Murphy who hit .216/.305 and Olson. They have Narvaez and Pina ( if he re-signs) and 3 good catching prospects in the minors. If the A’s are going to tank and rebuild, Murphy is the kind of guy they’d keep. Montas would have to be part of any deal to make it something the Brewers would consider.
Counter proposal: Brewers send Woodruff/JBJ to the Red Sox. Brewers get Olson/Montas/Pineda. A’s get Mayer/Casas
Oakland isn’t going to tear it down and give up one of it’s better prospects.
Murphy is just six months younger than Matt Olson. If the A’s are seriously looking to reset their roster then I don’t think it’s that far fetched they would consider trading a catcher likely to be in his 30’s the next time they are a playoff contender.
You are correct about shopping Murphy.
My earlier comment was meant for a different thread… not sure how I got it crossed up.
I wouldn’t want Oakland to do this deal because I think better is available by splitting up their trade assets. But this was an interesting idea.
Including Murphy would obviously be about more than just 2022, especially with Piña now a free agent and Narvaez likely entering his last season with the Brewers. I don’t think they have a future major league regular at the catching position in their farm system right now. Feliciano might hit enough to be viable, but his defense still has a ways to go.
Jmont1: From a Brewer perspective I like your counter proposal. Maybe the Red Sox would take JBJ back but I don’t think the A’s would give up Pineda in that trade.
Regarding the CraftBrew trade: I think CraftBrew makes a good point regarding Murphy’s potential fit with the Brewers. According to Baseball Reference his career numbers in MLB equal to about a full season of 562 AB’s. His WAR is 4.4 with 28 homers and 81 RBI’s. and a .222 BA. He also won a gold glove in 2021. I think the Brewers would be happy with him as there catcher, part time in 2022 and full time in 2023 – 2025.